Having finally finished Brother's Karamazov earlier this week (I liked it, but not as much as Crime and Punishment), I've started reading Murakami's Norwegian Wood, and I'm liking it a fair bit. Are there any works not originally published in English that you quite like?
Additionally, I've gotten a copy of both parts of Faust. However, I'm also the sort who believes plays are better seen than read. Are there any productions of either (or preferably both) parts that you would recommend?
What songs by Blackpink would you recommend?
Otherwise, looking forward to seeing Normal and, more importantly, Bulk. Also, I was rather charmed by the reveal at the end of Generation Z that it was, in fact, a sequel to Kill List as well as Down Terrace. Should probably rewatch that film at some point, not seen it since I was in the transition between High School and College.
I've been intrigued by the Epstein drops myself. Most notably -- and I hope it triggers no disillusionment for a MBE such as yourself -- that it reveals how many elites were essentially aspiring.
Fergie not only talks about a limited staff and desperate pursuit of various deals but seems to suggest, per some readings, that she'd have become Herr Epstein's maid, if I'm reading right. Prince Andrew meanwhile dutifully books rooms and books accommodations for parties he isn't invited to. One wonders almost if the reason Buckingham severed ties was less to do with Andy being involved in child subjugation (an old hobby of the powerful) and more to do with how hapless, awkward, and servile he appeared next to a man who spent his early years walking around a New York private academy in pimp cosplay while teaching arithmetic.
When I did my undergraduate degree in Marjorie Taylor Greene's current hometown, Ron DeSantis was himself a high school teacher there at an elite private school where he was known for drinking with high school girls. I think back on that and also how his presidential aspirations were dashed in small part by the revelation that he uses his fingers to eat pudding. (Custard on your side of the Atlantic, I think?) Marge meanwhile weathered the revelation that she was mistress to a crossfit instructor who liked to cosplay at conventions as the Russian Street Fighter video game character named Zangief with a tiny pair of red briefs and has exited politics for now under her own terms.
This brings to mind Obama's book The Audacity of Hope and how I always thought he seemed like a slick and clever guy who had some things backwards. Specifically I think most of us in this world are less motivated by the Audacity of Hope and more by the Hope of Audacity.
The criminals and artists and con men with any degree of influence seem to wield it in direct proportion to how audacious their claims are.
I experience disappointment at some of the intellectuals implicated in the files. I'd sparred a bit with Chomsky. I suspect Chopra is your closest connection in the files. I recall you touring together. But these figures made bold public claims and, perhaps most damning, seem boring next to Epstein. Search the word "entropy". Despite weak grammar and punctuation, it seems Jeff was interested in talking cerebral subjects with these luminaries who were more interested in beef jerky and muffin recipes. I know some who think these mundane phrases were code for corpses or something but I tend towards the reading that Epstein saw himself as this polymath genius and, once he inducted his way into the highest echelons, seemed disappointed by how little they wanted to talk about thermodynamics or multiverses and how much they were into creature comforts.
Of late, I gather Epstein managed to secure himself an office (at an Ivy) where there was research done in Evolutionary Sciences. There are photos of him, flanked by Steve Bannon, involved in a study group in a library study room. (A friend sent it to me dubbing it the worst version of Dan Harmon's Community.)
I'm told it was near unprecedented for a donor to get an office and get directly involved in research -- and the proximity of that research to eugenics should cause a chill. In my experience, most donors are generally interested in shaping legal and business curriculum to align society to their philosophy and are mostly interested in selecting text books and promoting or blocking tenure. Epstein was essentially creating a shadow professor position for himself.
I don't know. I have to ration my reading. A part of me freezes when reading about this man who was accused of doing nasty things involving eugenics, child mutilation, espionage -- who knows where it ends? Because he reads something like a protagonist in his own story, meddling and tinkering, full of manipulative vision. And the alleged elites around him read more like people who apparently pretended to be protagonists to enrich themselves but weren't terribly detail oriented or trying to actually shape anything, except for what other people directed them to promote on a mercenary basis for comfort.
I suppose what's dawning on me is the disillusioned possibility that royals and gurus are all essentially field labor and the actual capital and captains are criminals and thugs, carting around children in satchels like Krampus and throwing the best garden party. I'd long believed the world was rudderless, no one in charge, but now I'm starting to think it actually just responds to anyone who brings a rudder and indulges the excesses of those at the top, who will pledge themselves as serfs to anyone who validates them in a way they wished their parents had done. They inherited all but validation and they'll pledge their fortune to whoever gives it.
So glad OBAA delivered the counterforce energy :)))
The Bovino/Lockjaw isomorphism is uncanny!
It kinda feels like Vineland was almost Pynchon apologizing for the failures of the 1960's counterculture, and very presciently pointing out the resultant dangers that lie ahead:
"Someday, with the right man in the White House, there will be a Department of Jesus, yes and a Secretary of Jesus... Dismantle the New Deal, reverse the effects of World War II, restore fascism at home and around the world, flee into the past, can't you feel it, all the dangerous childish stupidity-"
But with The Invisibles and OBAA you get the perspective that it didn't actually fail, because it remains ongoing, transforming, iterating... fighting back!
"Nothing ends that isn't something else starting."
One of my favorite bits from The Invisibles:
"My Invisible initiation involved three years as a trainee accounts manager. I learned how to shovel numbers, go home and dream, get fat on tortillas and Oreos."
Reminds me of Michael Washburn's spiral model of transpersonal psychology. (Which I much prefer to Ken Wilber's hierarchical linear version.) The spiral model has a kind of two steps forward / one step back pattern, and contextualizes the one step back as "regression in the service of higher integration," which really helps deal with the inevitable boom/bust cycles.
"Then, when I was ready, I found them again..."
Anecdotally enough I can confirm a feeling of higher integration that kicked off around mid January. A very non-manic rising tide of disciplined focus and will power. Somehow, suddenly, easy breezy!
"All is One or Else" (!!!)
Deep deep down, where my adolescent power fantasies are sublimated into constructive productivity, I do in fact very sincerely, if irrationally, believe that the Kree way is supreme, and diligently honor my vow to complete it!
Draw a capital H, put a triangle roof on top so that it looks like a square house with a triangle roof on stilts or with 2 skinny legs. This is the letter for HOWSELF. We build a house of self from our experiences. Things that we like or identify with get let into our house of self. It’s how self is made.
A capital B is just 2 (small) capital D’s on top of each other- make it 3 capital D’s on top of each other and you have the letter for BIGBAD. Things that we don’t identify with and we don’t like, they get kept out of our house of self. They are Not-Self. They are like the Big Bad Wolf always threatening to blow your house (of self) down.
Draw a stick figure of a man upside down. The letter for YOODOO. You can do voodoo on you and make yourself happy or sad or however how you want to feel. Just like sticking needles into a doll to try and make another person feel pain, you can perform this kind of magic on yourself with your own mind and imagination to feel however you want.
Draw a capital P, draw a joined backwards letter R to it using the straight bit of the P as the straight bit of the R. The letter for PRELEASE. Proactively release wants, desires, the “right” to be disappointed if things don’t happen how you thought they would, give up expectations and want what you get.
Draw a capital L, keep your pen on the page and use draw an upside down capital L. It should look basically like one of the S’s from the Nazi SS symbols. The letter for SHOME. Look at the things you are ashamed about, embarrassed about, feel guilty about, the things you were wrong about and the bad things you have done. Look at them right in the face, your face. You need to face up to this stuff and be aware of it. Show your self, your me, your shame.
Draw a capital N, start from the bottom on the left hand side of the letter, at the top right where you’d normally stop your capital N, keep your pen on the page and make another little capital N. It should look like a Capital N lightning bolt. The letter for NEWTRAILITY. A new trail of neutrality. Follow the trail you are being shown when you are neutral to the outcome, remain neutral when it unfolds before you and follow it without interfering.
Draw a capital H but turn the horizontal bit into a smile and give it 2 little dots above the smile for eyes. The letter for HAPPYTRAP. Trap happy! Just decide right now, whenever I see the letter for or hear or see the word HAPPYTRAP I’m going to be as happy as I can be, because happiness is free and unconditional and available at any time I want. I can be happy just for the sake of being happy. I don’t have to have a reason, I might not deserve to be happy, I might have reasons not to be happy but if I just want to be happy, I can from now on. Then just by practicing and committing to it you can be happy any time you want. If you teach it to someone else you can trap happy for each other any time you just want happiness. It is a letter designed only to promote instant happiness.
Draw a capital backwards capital G starting from the top, where you’d normally stop the horizontal bit keep your pen on the page going right then make another, joined capital G. The letter for GEV. Give and be giving and you get having given. Be kind, attentive, generous, helpful and you get to have given these things. Enrichment and fulfilment by giving.
Draw a lower case m then keep your pen on the page and draw a bigger lower case m (not a spiky capital M), it should look like little McDonalds arches joined to big McDonald’s arches. MORCY- more, more mercy! Forgive everything for not being perfect, let everyone and everything off the hook, constantly, relentlessly. No judgement, no punishment, only more mercy.
Draw a capital M, make the pointed down V part into a down arrow. MEMUNITY. Develop immunity to Me, Me, Me and prioritising your own pleasure, profit, comfort, needs and desires above those of others.
All those headlines are really late to the podcast appearance, no? Someone just stumbled upon it months later and needed to create something to grab headlines on websites. It’s all really lazy. And if I am wrong on the podcast appearance that has caused the ridiculousness, then I consider myself just as lazy.
Did you check out Monarch: Legacy of Monsters on Apple TV?
I really enjoyed your contribution to the pride special. Red Racer being saved by Flashlig .
ht. Im kinda confused by Earth-36. Is there any guiding principle i missed? Or is it a parody of something? I enjoyed how dense the dialogue was. Its always better on a reread.
Kid Eternity was an early graphic novel I watched onto. I really enjoyed the comedian talking about Satan's fall. It wasnt funny but the idea of that performance struck as poetic and strange.
Did you ever plan for a Superman Dynasty book? That was my absolute favorite part of All-Star Superman. Superman Grounded 0p90gave us a glimpse and I am constantly hungry for more. Phillip Kennedy Johnson is doing his future take on it which is a departure from your lore. I have mixed feelings but it seems star wars inspired but very original.
I read your contribution to Ice Cream Man. Did you end up reading Kryptonite Spectrum? Kal-Elf had me cracking up. I loved the distinction that Mxyzptlk is not Superman's "mite" he is his "frenemy" now that Kal-Elf is here I cant wait to see Bruce's Frenemy lol
Starting something new? Well of course you are, you just told us so.
I think I speak for the others also when I say 'We remain in anticipation'.
As for The Invisibles cropping up all over, I believe nothing screams 'Harmony House' like images of the 'dentists room' on Epstein's island circulating the tabloids. Not to mention the sound of the soul crushing wails of the premature babies left to rot in incubators in the Gaza hospitals they bombed, or the devastating echo of little Hinde's sobs as she was gunned to death right in front of the eyes of the ENTIRE WORLD.
The Beast is Feeding, and like Steven King's IT, humanity is wiping is memory clean to give free rein to some very very deprived individuals.
Peter Thiel, that cunt Zuckerberg, the other sunburnt son of a goat herder maniac MSB, not to mention that dedushka in Moscow. These and a handful of others such as the 'Firm' here on our shores or the slave trading 'Family' in the USA are up to some serious hanky panky the consequences of which will hurt the things we love.
You sound like Alan (you know which Alan) when you say we can set our ideas loose in the world of imagination just as easily as they can. Information IS a super-weird substance, we can use this against them, just as is being done with Handy Andy currently.
Your post gives cue to look to the Stars and reminds us not to surrender hope. Hope always dies last and we ain't ready to give up hope just yet, I think.
Finally I'd like to say your writing resonates with Beauty and endless capacity. I forget this sometimes when I comment all attitude and swagger. Dimitte mihi, I can be ignorant and full of hubris.
Your picture gave me sexy young Larry David vibes, which is something I didn’t know I need in my life lmao. Just for curiosity which did you like better out of the Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost? I love Paradise Lost with a passion but I can never make it through the whole Dantes Paradiso and I feel like a bitch every time.
Also I’m about to start your New X-Men omnibus probably next week and I’m so fucking PUUUUUMPED!! I was never a fan of them growing up cause I had my head up DC’s ass (still do) but I’m going through some Claremont now and they’re slowly becoming my favorite team.
Having finally finished Brother's Karamazov earlier this week (I liked it, but not as much as Crime and Punishment), I've started reading Murakami's Norwegian Wood, and I'm liking it a fair bit. Are there any works not originally published in English that you quite like?
Additionally, I've gotten a copy of both parts of Faust. However, I'm also the sort who believes plays are better seen than read. Are there any productions of either (or preferably both) parts that you would recommend?
What songs by Blackpink would you recommend?
Otherwise, looking forward to seeing Normal and, more importantly, Bulk. Also, I was rather charmed by the reveal at the end of Generation Z that it was, in fact, a sequel to Kill List as well as Down Terrace. Should probably rewatch that film at some point, not seen it since I was in the transition between High School and College.
I've been intrigued by the Epstein drops myself. Most notably -- and I hope it triggers no disillusionment for a MBE such as yourself -- that it reveals how many elites were essentially aspiring.
Fergie not only talks about a limited staff and desperate pursuit of various deals but seems to suggest, per some readings, that she'd have become Herr Epstein's maid, if I'm reading right. Prince Andrew meanwhile dutifully books rooms and books accommodations for parties he isn't invited to. One wonders almost if the reason Buckingham severed ties was less to do with Andy being involved in child subjugation (an old hobby of the powerful) and more to do with how hapless, awkward, and servile he appeared next to a man who spent his early years walking around a New York private academy in pimp cosplay while teaching arithmetic.
When I did my undergraduate degree in Marjorie Taylor Greene's current hometown, Ron DeSantis was himself a high school teacher there at an elite private school where he was known for drinking with high school girls. I think back on that and also how his presidential aspirations were dashed in small part by the revelation that he uses his fingers to eat pudding. (Custard on your side of the Atlantic, I think?) Marge meanwhile weathered the revelation that she was mistress to a crossfit instructor who liked to cosplay at conventions as the Russian Street Fighter video game character named Zangief with a tiny pair of red briefs and has exited politics for now under her own terms.
This brings to mind Obama's book The Audacity of Hope and how I always thought he seemed like a slick and clever guy who had some things backwards. Specifically I think most of us in this world are less motivated by the Audacity of Hope and more by the Hope of Audacity.
The criminals and artists and con men with any degree of influence seem to wield it in direct proportion to how audacious their claims are.
I experience disappointment at some of the intellectuals implicated in the files. I'd sparred a bit with Chomsky. I suspect Chopra is your closest connection in the files. I recall you touring together. But these figures made bold public claims and, perhaps most damning, seem boring next to Epstein. Search the word "entropy". Despite weak grammar and punctuation, it seems Jeff was interested in talking cerebral subjects with these luminaries who were more interested in beef jerky and muffin recipes. I know some who think these mundane phrases were code for corpses or something but I tend towards the reading that Epstein saw himself as this polymath genius and, once he inducted his way into the highest echelons, seemed disappointed by how little they wanted to talk about thermodynamics or multiverses and how much they were into creature comforts.
Of late, I gather Epstein managed to secure himself an office (at an Ivy) where there was research done in Evolutionary Sciences. There are photos of him, flanked by Steve Bannon, involved in a study group in a library study room. (A friend sent it to me dubbing it the worst version of Dan Harmon's Community.)
I'm told it was near unprecedented for a donor to get an office and get directly involved in research -- and the proximity of that research to eugenics should cause a chill. In my experience, most donors are generally interested in shaping legal and business curriculum to align society to their philosophy and are mostly interested in selecting text books and promoting or blocking tenure. Epstein was essentially creating a shadow professor position for himself.
I don't know. I have to ration my reading. A part of me freezes when reading about this man who was accused of doing nasty things involving eugenics, child mutilation, espionage -- who knows where it ends? Because he reads something like a protagonist in his own story, meddling and tinkering, full of manipulative vision. And the alleged elites around him read more like people who apparently pretended to be protagonists to enrich themselves but weren't terribly detail oriented or trying to actually shape anything, except for what other people directed them to promote on a mercenary basis for comfort.
I suppose what's dawning on me is the disillusioned possibility that royals and gurus are all essentially field labor and the actual capital and captains are criminals and thugs, carting around children in satchels like Krampus and throwing the best garden party. I'd long believed the world was rudderless, no one in charge, but now I'm starting to think it actually just responds to anyone who brings a rudder and indulges the excesses of those at the top, who will pledge themselves as serfs to anyone who validates them in a way they wished their parents had done. They inherited all but validation and they'll pledge their fortune to whoever gives it.
"Dangerous lunatics, haters, and punk trash"
So glad OBAA delivered the counterforce energy :)))
The Bovino/Lockjaw isomorphism is uncanny!
It kinda feels like Vineland was almost Pynchon apologizing for the failures of the 1960's counterculture, and very presciently pointing out the resultant dangers that lie ahead:
"Someday, with the right man in the White House, there will be a Department of Jesus, yes and a Secretary of Jesus... Dismantle the New Deal, reverse the effects of World War II, restore fascism at home and around the world, flee into the past, can't you feel it, all the dangerous childish stupidity-"
But with The Invisibles and OBAA you get the perspective that it didn't actually fail, because it remains ongoing, transforming, iterating... fighting back!
"Nothing ends that isn't something else starting."
One of my favorite bits from The Invisibles:
"My Invisible initiation involved three years as a trainee accounts manager. I learned how to shovel numbers, go home and dream, get fat on tortillas and Oreos."
Reminds me of Michael Washburn's spiral model of transpersonal psychology. (Which I much prefer to Ken Wilber's hierarchical linear version.) The spiral model has a kind of two steps forward / one step back pattern, and contextualizes the one step back as "regression in the service of higher integration," which really helps deal with the inevitable boom/bust cycles.
"Then, when I was ready, I found them again..."
Anecdotally enough I can confirm a feeling of higher integration that kicked off around mid January. A very non-manic rising tide of disciplined focus and will power. Somehow, suddenly, easy breezy!
"All is One or Else" (!!!)
Deep deep down, where my adolescent power fantasies are sublimated into constructive productivity, I do in fact very sincerely, if irrationally, believe that the Kree way is supreme, and diligently honor my vow to complete it!
New Comic! Agnosis! #3 EP. 1 "BEFORE THE LAW"
https://weirdcomix.com/OKEY-DOKEY/AGNOSIS_03-WIP.html
Can’t wait for you and Mr Rushkoff to have a chinwag. You guys are like Lennon and McCartney, Derek and Clive, Shelley and Byron.
HOWSELF sequence:
Draw a capital H, put a triangle roof on top so that it looks like a square house with a triangle roof on stilts or with 2 skinny legs. This is the letter for HOWSELF. We build a house of self from our experiences. Things that we like or identify with get let into our house of self. It’s how self is made.
A capital B is just 2 (small) capital D’s on top of each other- make it 3 capital D’s on top of each other and you have the letter for BIGBAD. Things that we don’t identify with and we don’t like, they get kept out of our house of self. They are Not-Self. They are like the Big Bad Wolf always threatening to blow your house (of self) down.
Draw a stick figure of a man upside down. The letter for YOODOO. You can do voodoo on you and make yourself happy or sad or however how you want to feel. Just like sticking needles into a doll to try and make another person feel pain, you can perform this kind of magic on yourself with your own mind and imagination to feel however you want.
Draw a capital P, draw a joined backwards letter R to it using the straight bit of the P as the straight bit of the R. The letter for PRELEASE. Proactively release wants, desires, the “right” to be disappointed if things don’t happen how you thought they would, give up expectations and want what you get.
Draw a capital L, keep your pen on the page and use draw an upside down capital L. It should look basically like one of the S’s from the Nazi SS symbols. The letter for SHOME. Look at the things you are ashamed about, embarrassed about, feel guilty about, the things you were wrong about and the bad things you have done. Look at them right in the face, your face. You need to face up to this stuff and be aware of it. Show your self, your me, your shame.
Draw a capital N, start from the bottom on the left hand side of the letter, at the top right where you’d normally stop your capital N, keep your pen on the page and make another little capital N. It should look like a Capital N lightning bolt. The letter for NEWTRAILITY. A new trail of neutrality. Follow the trail you are being shown when you are neutral to the outcome, remain neutral when it unfolds before you and follow it without interfering.
Draw a capital H but turn the horizontal bit into a smile and give it 2 little dots above the smile for eyes. The letter for HAPPYTRAP. Trap happy! Just decide right now, whenever I see the letter for or hear or see the word HAPPYTRAP I’m going to be as happy as I can be, because happiness is free and unconditional and available at any time I want. I can be happy just for the sake of being happy. I don’t have to have a reason, I might not deserve to be happy, I might have reasons not to be happy but if I just want to be happy, I can from now on. Then just by practicing and committing to it you can be happy any time you want. If you teach it to someone else you can trap happy for each other any time you just want happiness. It is a letter designed only to promote instant happiness.
Draw a capital backwards capital G starting from the top, where you’d normally stop the horizontal bit keep your pen on the page going right then make another, joined capital G. The letter for GEV. Give and be giving and you get having given. Be kind, attentive, generous, helpful and you get to have given these things. Enrichment and fulfilment by giving.
Draw a lower case m then keep your pen on the page and draw a bigger lower case m (not a spiky capital M), it should look like little McDonalds arches joined to big McDonald’s arches. MORCY- more, more mercy! Forgive everything for not being perfect, let everyone and everything off the hook, constantly, relentlessly. No judgement, no punishment, only more mercy.
Draw a capital M, make the pointed down V part into a down arrow. MEMUNITY. Develop immunity to Me, Me, Me and prioritising your own pleasure, profit, comfort, needs and desires above those of others.
Next (invisible alphabet) sequence is MOGIC.
All those headlines are really late to the podcast appearance, no? Someone just stumbled upon it months later and needed to create something to grab headlines on websites. It’s all really lazy. And if I am wrong on the podcast appearance that has caused the ridiculousness, then I consider myself just as lazy.
Did you check out Monarch: Legacy of Monsters on Apple TV?
I really enjoyed your contribution to the pride special. Red Racer being saved by Flashlig .
ht. Im kinda confused by Earth-36. Is there any guiding principle i missed? Or is it a parody of something? I enjoyed how dense the dialogue was. Its always better on a reread.
Kid Eternity was an early graphic novel I watched onto. I really enjoyed the comedian talking about Satan's fall. It wasnt funny but the idea of that performance struck as poetic and strange.
Did you ever plan for a Superman Dynasty book? That was my absolute favorite part of All-Star Superman. Superman Grounded 0p90gave us a glimpse and I am constantly hungry for more. Phillip Kennedy Johnson is doing his future take on it which is a departure from your lore. I have mixed feelings but it seems star wars inspired but very original.
I read your contribution to Ice Cream Man. Did you end up reading Kryptonite Spectrum? Kal-Elf had me cracking up. I loved the distinction that Mxyzptlk is not Superman's "mite" he is his "frenemy" now that Kal-Elf is here I cant wait to see Bruce's Frenemy lol
This week you drew The Fool.
Starting something new? Well of course you are, you just told us so.
I think I speak for the others also when I say 'We remain in anticipation'.
As for The Invisibles cropping up all over, I believe nothing screams 'Harmony House' like images of the 'dentists room' on Epstein's island circulating the tabloids. Not to mention the sound of the soul crushing wails of the premature babies left to rot in incubators in the Gaza hospitals they bombed, or the devastating echo of little Hinde's sobs as she was gunned to death right in front of the eyes of the ENTIRE WORLD.
The Beast is Feeding, and like Steven King's IT, humanity is wiping is memory clean to give free rein to some very very deprived individuals.
Peter Thiel, that cunt Zuckerberg, the other sunburnt son of a goat herder maniac MSB, not to mention that dedushka in Moscow. These and a handful of others such as the 'Firm' here on our shores or the slave trading 'Family' in the USA are up to some serious hanky panky the consequences of which will hurt the things we love.
You sound like Alan (you know which Alan) when you say we can set our ideas loose in the world of imagination just as easily as they can. Information IS a super-weird substance, we can use this against them, just as is being done with Handy Andy currently.
Your post gives cue to look to the Stars and reminds us not to surrender hope. Hope always dies last and we ain't ready to give up hope just yet, I think.
Finally I'd like to say your writing resonates with Beauty and endless capacity. I forget this sometimes when I comment all attitude and swagger. Dimitte mihi, I can be ignorant and full of hubris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_EGk_ef730
Your picture gave me sexy young Larry David vibes, which is something I didn’t know I need in my life lmao. Just for curiosity which did you like better out of the Divine Comedy and Paradise Lost? I love Paradise Lost with a passion but I can never make it through the whole Dantes Paradiso and I feel like a bitch every time.
Also I’m about to start your New X-Men omnibus probably next week and I’m so fucking PUUUUUMPED!! I was never a fan of them growing up cause I had my head up DC’s ass (still do) but I’m going through some Claremont now and they’re slowly becoming my favorite team.