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Been having an interesting time of it, as so often happens when a school year reaches its end. Writing and editing work goes as well as it does. I was pleasantly surprised to get to edit El Sandifer's essay on the Sandman for the Hugo Award edition. Been taking a break from the big project for that, should be back to work sometime in June, once Finals are done. I'm also thrilled that you and Sarah are getting on. Been loving their work for years.

I was actually supposed to interview Ben Wheatley about his current work with 2000AD, but didn't get the chance due to the press for Normal (good film, though I wish it was an hour longer in the first act) overtaking things. Which is a shame because I really want to know when Bulk is coming to the USA.

Reading wise had me finish Murakami's The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, which very much felt like giving Lost Highway a happy ending. Need to chew on it a bit more, but I quite liked it. And I think The Business of the Black Knot might be your best work in prose yet.

Last weekend, I had the pleasure to see a rare 35mm copy of The Man Who Stole The Sun, a movie about a Japanese science teacher who builds an atom bomb for reasons not even he fully comprehends. It's a bitter, funny, bleak film that has some of the best music to grace the screens.

I also got a chance to see Frank at the comics festival he attended in New York back in April. While I didn't get a chance to talk to him, his conversation about the artistic process was quite delightful. Looking forward to the zombie strip.

Any thoughts on the Alan Wake/Control games?

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Rob's position on Deadpool was that the film absolutely needed to be R-rated. (This was prior to its release.) I believe my stance that led to a back and forth was that there are many Deadpools, some of which need an R rating and some of which don't, and that I wasn't terribly concerned with which got made. It was kind of funny that the exchange got picked up as news. Except that there was discourse at the time about whether the first film COULD be R-rated.

I've had Arkham Asylum on the brain lately and Super Sanity as a concept specifically, as it relates to AI psychosis, eccentric heads of state, and a post-forensic verification world where we know everything about the times the government is uncertain that it aliens and nothing about actual assaults, extortions, and murders within our governments. I'm not suggesting any of these are sane but it does feel to me like we are seeing the old sanity fail to act as a protection spell. My own thoughts on consciousness increasingly view it principally as an entropy exporting mechanism, which describes everything from photosynthesis through refrigerators through a multi-year collaborative human artistic project. The entropy is banished, not destroyed.

I have to say something that's nagged at me: maybe it's your specific blend of punk influences but you seem very orthodox on the view that Batman embodies order and Joker embodies chaos, with any subversion in that front being generally a soft touch from a person always questioning which is which.

In my DC pitching days, one of my springboards was for something involving Chief Man of Bats. You were principally at Marvel at this point and I had it tucked under one arm at SDCC while you and I were principally talking about Donald Duck's wardrobe so this is well before Batman Incorporated. (I think we got off on the subject of Donald Duck because you had the same dapper suit two days in a row and I later read this was a show you had a medical emergency at.) I may have even mentioned it although my sideways idea at that point was actually directed at Nightwing because I had more of an "in" there and my concept was essentially Dick Grayson reuniting the global Robins, which is different. (I mainly bring it up to apologize for my insensitivity.)

But in reviewing my reprints of Dick Sprang era Batman in preparing that, I had hit upon something odd.

The Joker had a writing staff in one story, much like Sid Caesar's famous staff. To me, this lined up with later suppositions of him being a stand up comic and was more in line with my read on him than the guy who used a gun and other blunt instruments. His plans were elaborate, detailed, multi-step.

Batman by contrast was an improv comic. He came armed with implausible preparations for every contingency, a utility belt that seemed like a bona fide super power. Even his origin with a bat flying through his window was like an improv comic taking audience prompts, a subject already of numerous jokes that imagined he'd have become anything he saw come through his window that night. I've seen somewhere a clever gag where the bat bursts through and Bruce Wayne instead fixates on the broken window and becomes Shards-of-Glass Man.

To my eye, the Joker is structured comedy. Adjust one pedantic detail and he flies off the handle at the formula being ruined. He sees everything as a grand plan, as destiny. He's motivated not by life being chaos but the sunk cost fallacy of trying to make sense out of a chaotic world.

Batman is improvisational virtuoso. He's prepared for anything, expects nothing. He's endlessly adaptable, fluid, contortionist (literally), born of randomness and insignificant details piling up as he assembled them ad hoc. Adam West's solutions to Riddler puzzles was like watching someone do free association jazz riffs. His very logo is so impressionistic that people aren't sure if it's a bat or a mouth and his cowl looks not quite like a bat and not quite like a demon. It's all hasty scribbles, scrupulously committed to like an improv comic's "Yes and" rules, unflappable to uncertainty.

As such, I came around to viewing Batman as chaos and Joker as order, which puts me in wild disagreement with every franchise steward and probably the greatest minds on earth to opine on the subject.

I didn't think I could get away with it so I smuggled it into my Man of Bats related pitch, which I also didn't get away with obviously.

But I suppose it's one of those ideas I had that I thought, "This feels like I caught a stray idea that the implicate reality meant to send Grant's way and I opened their mail even though it wasn't addressed to me." And then I expected you to eventually get there. And maybe you did with Zur-En-Arrh a bit but not in the way I expected.

So it goes!

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